In between is a judgment call. Anyway, what's unclear is the penalty for a stick that fails this test. I've been told by some people that the 1:00 penalty is for deep pocket only, so if it fails the deep pocket test and the ball rolling out test you can give it 1:00, but if it fails only the ball rolling out test it has to be 3:00. Other people say the rules aren't clear so it should only be 1:00. But if someone actually messes with the manufacture of the stick Stan Smith Adidas Black White
the plastic, is that evidence enough?The argument I've heard which I Stan Smith Adidas Bold
think is reasonable but maybe not what the rulemakers intended is that since the rules say Adidas Stan Smith Red White the 1:00 is for deep pocket only then any other illegal stick must be 3:00. Thus, if the pocket's not deep and the ball hangs up, it would be 3:00, and the stick would be out of the game. FYI, I usually quote the 45 degree guideline if a coach asks why the stick got flagged, but I pretty much don't flag the stick until we're at about 80 degrees from vertical. Well with my razer and my evo pro, when I hold my stick completely vertical, the ball stays in.
LaxRef, were you trying to say that that's legal or illegal? I was a bit confused. That's okay. But as you roll the stick forward from vertical, the ball had better fall out of it. I'd say if the ball is still in it when the stick is upside down defying gravity then it's illegal. If the ball is out by 45 degrees, I'd call it legal.
baking the head, bending the handle then the person is really trying to cheat. I would probably go one minute if the stick had both a deep pocket and a stuck ball because they both are a result of the same adjugment of strings.
So if the ball holds in a mesh pocket past the 45 degree mark, it could happen as a result of the way the sidewalls are strung, the stringing at the bottom of the bag if the pocket carries low, or a stick that has been pinched at the throat. So, what's the evidence that the stick has been been altered? Is there a minimum measurement at the throat? Or if the ball is hanging up on Adidas Stan Smith Grey White
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